I was just wondering, for any of you who might have caught ER this past Thursday (Feb 10th) what you thought of it?

To refresh you memory, it was the episode with Carrie and her mom. Any thoughts about this episode?

shy

Shy,
Just watched in on tape yesterday. I thought it was well done. It said a lot! What did you think?

I saw it too! Yes, it was well done and interesting, indeed. I'm getting a little tired of Christians being portrayed this way when this subject comes up, though. If it wasn't for the UCC ads on the television right now, there would be no positive Christian views on TV regarding the Church and GLBT.

Carrie's discussion with her mother indicated that she had lost her her lifetime church. It would have been nice if she could have been able to say that her church supported her, or that she found one that did.

This is a short coming of the series "The L Word" too. It makes me sad, although I completely understand why it is portrayed this way. I pray the future will be much different.

I know that I am a little late in replying to this, but I just wanted to put my two cents in for what it is worth. (About two cents, probably) New Song, I agree with you. I would love to see a story line that finally portrayed an accepting church. It seems to me that everything in the media does more to just push the gay and lesbian community away from God and that really saddens me. The UCC ads are great, but even they were banned from certain stations for reasons I still don't fully understand. I just wish that the "mainstream" Christians would stop pushing people away and start loving them and showing them God's love through actions as well as words. So as far as ER, I would love for Carrie's mom to come back and say that her church loves and accepts all people and would like to see Carrie attend with her mom when she can. I realize that this will probably not bring viewers (except us) and so will most likely never happen, but that is what I would like to see.

Kayti

Okay...so even though I was the one who asked about this originally, sorry it's taken me so long to get my two cents in about it.

Bravo to Carrie for having the courage to stand up and say who she is, and that being gay isn't the horrible thing her mother thinks in her heart it is. Way to go Carrie for going back to the hotel room to talk with her Mom about it again. For not wanting to leave things how they were left. Boo to her mom for not being able to accept her!

But....what I really want to know, especially after having just finished watching the first season of The L Word....are where are the gay and lesbian couples on TV who represent good wholesome values?? There are no "religious" people on TV who are accepting?? And....there are no gay or lesbian couples on TV who depict solid long term commited relationships??

It's no wonder that so many people have the wrong ideas. From what you see on TV you would get the impression that ALL Christians are "gay bashers"; and that ALL people who are gay and lesbian sleep around, can't even get through a first date without having sex before it's over, and don't have the same commited relationships that straight people do.

With all the debate going on right now in Canada, the USA and around the world about making same sex marriage legal....why can't the REALITY of being gay or lesbian be shown on TV? Why can't Christians be shown loving and accepting people "just as they are"??

I just don't understand!!

shy

Unfortunately, it seems as if committed relationships and loving Christians do not get the ratings. I wish they did too. I was not very happy when the only committed relationship on The L Word ended in adultry. At least on ER, Carrie was in a committed relationship and has not jumped into bed with the next woman to come along. ER gets credit for that, but they do not get credit for killing off one half of the only gay couple...just like almost every other series has.

I would so love to see a real depiction to show that the gay community is very diverse and there are just as many great relationships as not.

Just my opinion...

Kayti

Greetings, everyone.

I taped the episode and it took me several days to get up the nerve to watch it. I was afraid to hear once again the supposed Christian views on homosexuality...not just because it's not realisitic but also because I feared it would make me doubt the progress I've made in accepting myself, including my sexuality. Thankfully, it didn't do that.

However, I found the Carrie's Mom character to be pretty shallow, just too much of a stereotype. It didn't seem very believable to me that after such a short time with Carrie, her mother would give up on her without thinking it over more, without struggling more. Things were just too clear cut for her.

One more thing to add. I was adopted as an infant, too. In fact, I found and reunited with my birth mother just a few years ago. "Coincidentally" (translation: in God's timing), I found her just as I was beginning to deal with my sexuality. My mother was and has continued to be very accepting of my sexuality. In fact, I think she knew "who/what" I was before I did. Wow. God just continues to amaze me with how things come together at just the right times, sometimes.

All for now.

Searcher2003

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Originally posted by searcher2003:
However, I found the Carrie's Mom character to be pretty shallow, just too much of a stereotype. It didn't seem very believable to me that after such a short time with Carrie, her mother would give up on her without thinking it over more, without struggling more. Things were just too clear cut for her.

Hey Searcher....I'm not quite sure how unrealistic he mothers character is. I realized I'm gay about 2 years ago now...but before that I had some pretty strong "Baptist-like" beliefs about people who are gay being sinners (you know the old "love the sinner hate the sin" thing). I have to admit, that until my eyes and heart were opened to ME being gay....I had some pretty narrow views on the whole subject, and just hearing that someone was gay was enough for me to herd them into my stereotyped thoughts and views. It wouldn't have taken any struggling at all...I was THAT certain of my beliefs in that area. I think sadly, there are FAR too many Christians who are like Carries mother, or like I used to be....

But, it reminds me how blessed I am to not be the same person I was 2 1/2 years ago. Sometimes, God REALLY does cause the blind to see!! *smiles*

shy

Isn't amazing how God causes the blind to see, starting with you accepting YOU?? I so can hear you and relate. I am almost embarrassed to admit that!!

I normally don't watch this other program called "Wife Swap" but a friend told me I should watch it because it had a lesbian couple on it. The interesting thing about this show is that 2 women spend two weeks at each other's home. The first week they have to live as the home is set up. The second week they get to "convert" the home to THEIR rules/style.
The straight woman was from a fundamental Christian home and began telling how she lived by the "Golden Rule". By the end of the 2 weeks, she was so badly preaching AGAINST being gay, that you could see very little love or acceptance from her at all. Very sad.

So maybe Carrie's mom is not so poorly portrayed. Just sad that someone can't portray a Christian who is loving and accepting.

I complained to my friend (with whom I am close and she is a lesbian) about the way the L Word ended up in season one and how I hated how all the shows I've ever watched showed Christians in bad lights and Lesbians as bed hoppers. My friend is not a Christian and she was honest with me about her feelings also. It made me think a lot.

What she said was that the L Word depicted Lesbians for who they are. She told me that the majority of Lesbians will have many partners in their lives and will try out many different relationships (male/female, female/female) before "settling" for something. This is what she did before she chose to remain with her current wife.

She believes we (Christian Lesbians) are a minority in the lesbian world. She says I should just stop complaining about the way Hollywood makes us look because that is really who we are. She agreed that the L Word might be slightly exagerated...but only slightly in her opinion.

It made me sad that she saw nothing wrong with that kind of a life.

well ya know the answer to that one all of you!!!!
I recently wrote an essay for college and this was my response to the promiscuity issue;Hope it helps some of you respond in a Christian loving but firm way.

"Some people believe that homosexuals are renowned for their promiscuity and unconventional life styles.
Promiscuity is a rapidly growing disease worldwide amongst all groups of humanity, regardless of sexuality, ethnic background or religious status. It is defiantly not a homosexual condition it is a social catastrophe"

By the way can anyone tell me what happened with the issue of Carries baby last I saw her partners parents were fighting for custody and I missed the result????

Hey Kimmie, nice to see you!

I also missed the next show after that but was given this answer when I asked:

Carries 'in-laws' finally gave up their fight for custody and she is the legal parent with full custody. The grand-parents get to have the baby when Carrie works. Everybody won! Cool!

Chickpea

thanks Chickpea soo glad to hear that even tho it's only a movie lol.